Monday, June 15, 2009

No God or Know God(good discussion)

An atheist professor of philosophy speaks to his class on the problem Science has with God, The Almighty.

He asks one of his new students to stand and.....

Prof: So you believe in God?

Student: Absolutely, sir.

Prof: Is God good?

Student: Sure.

Prof: Is God all-powerful?

Student: Yes.

Prof: My brother died of cancer even though he prayed to God to heal him.

Most of us would attempt to help others who are ill. But God didn't. How is this God good then? Hmm? (Student is silent.)

Prof: You can't answer, can you? Let's start again, young fellow. Is God good?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Is Satan good?

Student: No.

Prof: Where does Satan come from?

Student: From...God.. .

Prof: That's right. Tell me son, is there evil in this world?

Student: Yes.

Prof: Evil is everywhere, isn't it? And God did make everything. Correct?

Student: Yes.

Prof: So who created evil?

(Student does not answer.)

Prof: Is there sickness? Immorality? Hatred? Ugliness? All these terrible things exist in the world, don't they?

Student: Yes, sir.

Prof: So, who created them?

(Student has no answer.)

Prof: Science says you have 5 senses you use to identify and observe the world around you. Tell me, son...Have you ever seen God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Tell us if you have ever heard your God?

Student: No, sir.

Prof: Have you ever felt your God, tasted your God, smelt your God? Have you ever had any sensory perception of God for that matter?

Student: No, sir. I'm afraid I haven't.

Prof: Yet you still believe in Him?

Student: Yes.

Prof: According to empirical, testable, demonstrable protocol, science says your GOD doesn't exist. What do you say to that, son?

Student: Nothing. I only have my faith.

Prof: Yes. Faith. And that is the problem science has.

Student: Professor, is there such a thing as heat?

Prof: Yes.

Student: And is there such a thing as cold?

Prof: Yes.

Student: No sir. There isn't.

(The lecture theatre becomes very quiet with this turn of events.)

Student: Sir, you can have lots of heat, even more heat, superheat, mega heat, white heat, a little heat or no heat. But we don't have anything called cold. We can hit 458 degrees below zero which is no heat,

But we can't go any further after that. There is no such thing as cold. Cold is only a word we use to describe the absence of heat. We cannot measure cold.

Heat is energy. Cold is not the opposite of heat, sir, just the absence of it.

(There is pin-drop silence in the lecture theatre.)

Student: What about darkness, Professor? Is there such a thing as darkness?

Prof: Yes. What is night if there isn't darkness?

Student: You're wrong again, sir. Darkness is the absence of something. You can have low light, normal light, bright light, flashing light....But if you have no light constantly, you have nothing and its called darkness, isn't it? In reality, darkness isn't.

If it were you would be able to make darkness darker, wouldn't you?

Prof: So what is the point you are making, young man?

Student: Sir, my point is your philosophical premise is flawed.

Prof: Flawed? Can you explain how?

Student: Sir, you are working on the premise of duality. You argue there is life and then there is death, a good God and a bad God. You are viewing the concept of God as something finite, something we can measure.

Sir, science can't even explain a thought. It uses electricity and magnetism, but has never seen, much less fully understood either one.

To view death as the opposite of life is to be ignorant of the fact that death cannot exist as a substantive thing. Death is not the opposite of life: just the absence of it. Now tell me, Professor. Do you teach your students that they evolved from a monkey?

Prof: If you are referring to the natural evolutionary process, yes, of course, I do.

Student: Have you ever observed evolution with your own eyes, sir?

(The Professor shakes his head with a smile, beginning to realize where the argument is going.)

Student: Since no one has ever observed the process of evolution at work and cannot even prove that this process is an on-going endeavour, are you not teaching your opinion, sir? Are you not a scientist but a preacher?

(The class is in uproar.)

Student: Is there anyone in the class who has ever seen the Professor's brain?

(The class breaks out into laughter.)

Student: Is there anyone here who has ever heard the Professor's brain, felt it, touched or smelt it? No one appears to have done so. So, according to the established rules of empirical, stable, demonstrable protocol, science says that you have no brain, sir.

With all due respect, sir, how do we then trust your lectures, sir?

(The room is silent. The professor stares at the student, his face unfathomable. )

Prof: I guess you'll have to take them on faith, son.

Student: That is it sir... The link between man & god is FAITH.

That is all that keeps things moving & alive....... ......... ..


Be Cool...
Stay Cool...


Rajeswari said...

Very nice concept.I like it..

சித்து said...

Superb Karthi, i really enjoyed reading this. will forward the link to all my friends. And will be happy if the So called DK and DMK goons read this.

coolzkarthi said...

நன்றி அக்கா

coolzkarthi said...

நன்றி சித்து.....உங்கள் நண்பர்கள் என்ன சொன்னார்கள் என்று கண்டிப்பாக சொல்லுங்கள்.....

தருமி said...

//...will be happy if the So called DK and DMK goons read this.//

அப்போ, goons of non-DK and non-DMK பத்தி என்ன சொல்லலாம்?!

rapp said...

அப்போ, goons of non-DK and non-DMK பத்தி என்ன சொல்லலாம்?!//


coolzkarthi said...

வாங்க தருமி .....
வாங்க ராப்....

sriram said...

I really enjoyed this one Kathi, you may have picked this up from an email for from the web, but I got to read this from your post, thanks a tonne for that.
I am going to send to all my friends who would appreciate this one.
Keep going
endrum anbudan
Sriram Boston USA

Anonymous said...

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உங்கள் student தலையைச் சுற்றி மூக்கைத் தொட்டு எதை உளறினாலும் ஒன்றே ஒன்றைத்தான் கூற விரும்புகிறேன்.. கடவுள் (உங்களைப் பொருத்த வரை) இருக்கட்டும், ஆனால் அவரால் எந்தப் பயனும் இல்லை என்பதுதான் அது...
ஒரு உடைந்த சைக்களிளைக் கற்பனை செய்து கொள்ளுங்கள், அதன் ரெண்டு சக்கரமும் இல்லை என்று வைத்துக் கொள்ளுங்கள்.. அதை குப்பையில் போடுவதைத்தவிர எந்தப் பயனும் இல்லை என்று நீங்களே சொல்வீர்கள்... அதைப் போலவே மக்களும் கடவுளால் எந்தப் பயனும் இல்லை என்று தங்கள் அனுபவத்தில் உணர்கிறார்கள்.. என்னைப் பொருத்தவரை கடவுள் இல்லை.. உங்களைப் பொருத்தவரை கடவுள் இருக்கிறார்.. ஆனால் பயன் ஒன்றும் இல்லை...
காரல் மார்க்ஸ் சொல்வதைப் போல இரக்கமற்ற உலகில் இருக்கும் ஒரு இதயம் இந்த நம்பிக்கை... மக்களை மயக்கும் அபின்.. அவ்வளவுதான்
Aranga Kanthasamy

Anonymous said...

கடவுளை ஒரு தனி மனிதனாக நினைப்பது அறிவீனமும் சிறு பிள்ளை தனமானதுமாகும்...

Anonymous said...

///கடவுளை ஒரு தனி மனிதனாக நினைப்பது அறிவீனமும் சிறு பிள்ளை தனமானதுமாகும்...///
இப்படியே காலம் காலமாக சொல்லிக் கொண்டு வளரும் தலைமுறையிடம் பரப்புவதும் அப்படியே அறிவீனமும் சிறுபிள்ளைத்தனமுமாகும்....
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